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Does anyone go to bhg in tennessee? And if so, what are ur feelings on how the clinic is run?
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Apr 30 13 3:32 AM

My feelings are pretty well known.I'm not a real big fan of BHG but if you live in Memphis like i do thats the only thing around.If you live near the border of Alabama or Georgia you are better off in those states.Tennessee has some real harsh rules and there are a few that make it hard to get on a stable dose if you need to go over 120mg.They want to give you a peak and trough every 10mg it seems just to get an increase above 120mg.At BHG we have to call in twice a week once you get take homes.

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Apr 30 13 3:58 AM

@ Tabitha: I attend a BHG clinic in west Tennessee and my feeling are the same as mikes.. Get tired of having to take a peak and trough every 10mgs, and having to call the clinic twice a week. I've already had to get like 6 p&ts and its just getting ridiculous. BHG would be a lot better if state wasn't so strict, and also if BHG didn't make us call in 8 times a month to see if we have a callback that would be a lot better.

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Apr 30 13 7:08 AM

My experience has been that BHG isn't so much of the problem (though many of the clinics they've acquired in TN seem "less personal" since their acquisition) as much as the STATE of Tennessee is getting in the way of proper treatment (at least for those who need doses higher than 100mgs)... BHG now owns NINE of the twelve OTP's in TN... so if you go to treatment in TN chances are pretty good it's BHG! :-)

Which one do you attend, Tabitha? Do you go to a BHG clinic, or were you just curious about our thoughts?


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Apr 30 13 10:38 AM

My experience has been that BHG isn't so much of the problem (though many of the clinics they've acquired in TN seem "less personal" since their acquisition) as much as the STATE of Tennessee is getting in the way of proper treatment (at least for those who need doses higher than 100mgs)...
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Zac, I am curious...because it seems like just when I have heard and processed one rule whether it be Tennessee State Methadone Authority Rule or it be a particular Tennessee clinic rule....up pops another one to hear and process. 

In further explanation 8 callbacks a month?  Is this a BHG Rule or a State Rule?  I see the State being the proprietor of the "dose caps/peak and trough issue" but are the the issuer of the 8 callbacks?  If so than you are right BHG isn't personalizing their ways of treatment but if it is a BHG rule I find it quite personal that by all means would be a strike against them in my book.  iyswim....


I have had to come back and edit this a bit after I read it because Zac I feel like I try to negate anything positive you or anyone has to say about Tennessee and MMT.  I really apologize at this inclination I have here to do this, but it is what it is...I can't find any true appreciation at all of how restrictive the State of Tennessee is on their own then when a clinic comes around and adds even more constraints to patients receiving the life saving, most effective, most needed and counterproductive if not effectively administered modality of opiate addiction treatment, I just can't look pass it and say the State is the responsible entity because they cheat patients from proper doses. Although I will admit that is the worst of all the injustices so they are the worst of the two as far as I am concerned. 


The state does have one policy I have noted that is fair and impresses me and above all else surprises the hell out of me and I think all the clinics follow I would love to hear if it is a fact that all the clinics do follow the State's rule (which by way is in line with the federal rules/less restrictive) and that is the takehomes level/phase policy.  I don't know too many states that allow 6 takehomes with 9 to 12 months of compliant treatment.  Do BHG clinics allow this?  Maybe that rule is the reason they are motivated for all the call backs....???Anyways I just wanted to say I by no means mean to throw a hammer in any of your post, I find you most beneficial and very much needed for the State of Tennessee MMT community, but I have a tendency to believe that if the State even becomes less restrictive after lobbying, advocacy work etc...will the clinics follow suit? 


I hope you do not take offense to my asking for clarity or explanation in a post or reply of your...your opinion and information is very well respected by myself and many in this community.  Thanking you for all you do.

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Apr 30 13 12:17 PM

@ way: The 8 callbacks a month is a BHG rule.. Used to before BHG took ovr the clinic would call me once every 3 months now that its BHG they make me call then 8 times a month to make sure I don't have a callback. I liked it better before it was BHG.. Now as far as increases BHG is not to blame. The increasing issue is states fault. Having to call twice a week and 8 times a month is a bit ridiculous ya know lol ugh, but it is in fact a BHG rule way..

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Apr 30 13 12:25 PM

That's what I was thinking so Yes...I would have a problem with BHG Clinics....If the remaining three are too far away look out of State...per the original OP.....

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Apr 30 13 12:44 PM

Dyersburg methadone clinic isn't BHG and they don't do the 2 callbacks/ 8 times a month. I know from where I live the dyersburg clinic is pretty much the same distance as the clinic I drive. Yea way I liked my clinic better before it became BHG because of the callback issues. Now as far as the dose issue BHG doesn't have anything to do with that pretty much state is the biggest problem of all when it comes to Tennessee..

I actually love my clinic alot that I attend in Tennessee, but state is my issue, but since BHG has come I haven't been very happy about the new callback issues because its a bit over kill having to call 8 times a month to make sure I don't have a callback. Also now Idk if it's BHG or not but also with all this new callback stuff they Also state that any clinic members that live in the same household have to come in say like if ur boyfriend/husband has a callback and u attend the clinic as well then u would have to come with him and get ur meds counted as well, and I really can't remember if this part has to do with BHG or not, but it didn't come into play until BHG come.

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Apr 30 13 4:28 PM

The callback thing is BHG, as @philly stated... and part of the problem is their "randomized" system where patients have to CALL IN and see if they have a "call back." Most BHG clinics are using a computerized system for this now that randomly generates who is being called back... This can lead to some patients randomly showing up more than others, etc... I do agree that the callback rule is too restrictive, but the dose capping, etc. is from the State. I do agree that TN's staying in line with federal regs on Takehomes is actually surprising considering the other draconian regulations! Maybe they were writing so much B.S. they just missed that one! Ha. Georgia is the same way... you can get 1 week (6) takehomes at 10 months in treatment... twice a month at 12 months. Tennessee is the same. Some BHG clinics are good in terms of truly caring counselors and good physicians (I think philly would agree his doc is awesome). That being said there are some corporate-like BHG policies that I don't agree with. I wasn't being an apologist for BHG... just saying it's important we recognize that many of the things come from the state & not the clinic/company. And I don't take offense to your criticism of TN... I'm certain we would agree on the vast majority of those things! That's why the TN chapter exists... there's much to work on! :-) 


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May 12 13 1:53 AM

I go to bhg in knoxville.

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May 12 13 9:01 AM

@tabathalinkes - Which Knoxville BHG? Citico or Bernard? I started treatment at Citico years ago, but I go to Private Clinic North in the metro-Chattanooga area now (it's actually just across the border in GA). I have a meeting at the BHG citico clinic on the 21st with both the director of citico and bernard at the same time. :-)  You interested in advocacy? I'm meeting with them to help them get some advocacy groups started up - We would LOVE to have an advocate that attends one of the Knoxville clinics!!! 

Shoot me an e-mail! :-)

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May 12 13 7:36 PM

I started at bernard but now go to citico. Yes, I would be very interested in advocacy. I am so very tired of the general public being so misinformed about mmt. Please excuse my errors as I am on my phone and it is very diffucult to type.

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May 13 13 6:52 PM

I got your e-mail @tabatha.... I responded to you.  

@philly115 on here is the Assit. Director of TN and covers Western TN, FYI... I handle middle and east (hopefully we'll find an advocate JUST for middle soon too)... I would LOVE to have you in East TN with me!


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Mar 18 16 7:39 AM

bhg knoxville,tn

Ive been going to bhg gor 2 years now. I first started going to the one in west tn. They treated really good there but when i came to knoxville totally ddifferent. They treated me so bad that i would leave crying just from the stress they caused me. I had to go everyday for a month until yhey would give me back my week take homes which i was already receiving. My first day i was there for 5 hours just to see the doctor. He got their at 8 and wouldnt call anybody in for 2 hours. The receptionists are the worst to deal with. And rarely ever have change to give back whrn i pay them. Some nurses are really nice but most are not. Just recently i went in for a count and the nurse told me to put my empty bags in the thing where they have to collect them. Well when i go back thr nrxt week to get my take homes of course i was i few bags short. I ecplainef what happend and hell broke lose. They gave me a warning but made me pay 5$ for each bag. Im on fixed income so 20-30 dollars is alot to me. I thoight i was gonna have a nervous breakdown. I hate them do much. I havent ever pissrd positive for drugs ive always paid them. Follow every rule but they continue to abuse and take advantage and thats how i see it. It was not like this at bhg in west tn and i just would like to know why this bhg acts likes a totally different?

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Sep 3 16 11:26 AM

I'm new to this

I'm new to this and live in the Memphis area I just got out of the hospital for detoxing from opiates and heroin how does the bhg center work? Do I have to have opiates in my system because I obviously I wouldn't from detoxing? How much is it for your first appointment and then how much is it after that or does it change?? Thank you

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Mar 23 17 8:27 AM

Wanting to start tn clinic how?

I have been going to the bhs in KY for almost 2 yrs I now live closer to tn.and I want to switch but Idk what I need to do please any help

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Mar 25 17 1:03 AM

Hi everyone suffering with opiate addiction, and need detoxing. Ibogaine therapy is best therapy for detox cleaning and it makes you completely free from the addiction un short period of time as prescribed by the physician. Waiting for your replies if wanting to quite the addiction. Thanks

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RE: Wanting to start tn clinic how?

Keashaj30 wrote:
I have been going to the bhs in KY for almost 2 yrs I now live closer to tn.and I want to switch but Idk what I need to do please any help


Bros ibogaine would make you free from any form of drug addiction. U would not need to go to any center for opaites. Get back to me bros for more détails on how u would cleansed and free.

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Jun 4 17 6:20 AM

BHG treatment center in Knoxville TN

I've been going to BHG for about 4 yrs in another state. When I switched to the one in Knoxville, it was awful. I had all my paperwork from the previous clinic, showing that I had not failed a drug test or missed a call back since I had been in treatment. I get here n there's so many little bs rules. I missed a group by just a few minutes before I was standing in line having to wait to check in new they took my take homes away for a week. A few months pass by everything is fine. I got a call back came in, no problem, negative drug test, had all my medication. A few weeks go by, go in to get my take homes, they say  I'm opening my bags wrong, treating me like I'm guilty of something and acting like I'm just a piece of shit, a bag was missing and a piece of another. Wouldn't give me my take homes at all, I take my daily dose, go up to talk to my counselor, she's busy, I leave, call my counselor leave a message with my number asking her to please call me. She doesn't call me back, when I go in the next day she just shrugs her shoulders, then I'm told I'm losing my take homes for at least 30 days. Even when I go in to have a counseling sections she doesn't help me, she just shrugs her shoulders and says IDK. I've left there crying and upset more times in the last few month's than in my entire life. Some of them treat me like I'm lying and worthless. I thought I was paying for treatment and help, not paying to be judged and treated like i'm a worthless junkie.

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